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(Entry was posted by Theo M on this post in the Dumb SEO Questions community on Facebook, 03/26/2014).

Is there any SEO value to adding geo locationi info to a url?

I have seen a similar question to this, but do not remember the answer and have not been able to find that original question.
Is there any SEO value to adding geo locationi info to a url?  For example, currently the url is:
company_name_acupuncture(dot)com
and client wanted to get a new url of: company_name_acupuncture_CITY_NAME(dot)com
(where company_name Acupuncture is the name of the company.)

The current domain is 3 years old with a PR of 0.

It seems to me that this technique is old, but he showed me several websites that did exactly this and ranked well in local SEO, though I am sure that there were other factors involved as well.  (His example was a dog grooming website, www.fairfaxfancygrooming(dot)com which seems to use many old school SEO techniques (keyword stuffing, light text which includes keywords, etc.) and yet it ranks well.  At times it is difficult to explain to a client that certain techniques should not be employed when some websites that are using those techniques appear to be benefiting from those very techniques.

Any thoughts?  Thanks.

#localseo  ?
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  • Theo M: [I have seen a similar question to this, but do not remember the answer and have not been able to find that original question.]
    Is there any SEO value to adding geo locationi info to a url?  ;For example, currently the url is:
    company_name_acupuncture(dot)com
    and client wanted to get a new url of: company_name_acupuncture_CITY_NAME(dot)com
    (where [company_name] Acupuncture is the name of the company.)

    The current domain is 3 years old with a PR of 0.

    It seems to me that this technique is old, but he showed me several websites that did exactly this and ranked well in local SEO, though I am sure that there were other factors involved as well.  ;(His example was a dog grooming website, www.fairfaxfancygrooming(dot)com which seems to use many old school SEO techniques (keyword stuffing, light text which includes keywords, etc.) and yet it ranks well.  ;At times it is difficult to explain to a client that certain techniques should not be employed when some websites that are using those techniques appear to be benefiting from those very techniques.

    Any thoughts?  ;Thanks.

    #localseo  ;
  • Rob Maas: "Old" techniques can work (sadly enough)  ; But that is just what Google is trying to fight with their Spam Team , their special Algo updates and their daily improvements on the 220+ factors in the basic algo.  ;If you think you're smarter then Google, just do it. If you want to secure a stable position in the SERPs and build a reputable business, think twice. You won't end up in jail but is your client willing to take the risc of a (semi) permanent ban/penalty ?  ;
  • Theo M: +Rob Maas, I am definitely not smarter than Google.  ;:-)
     ;I also do not want to do anything that would get me in trouble with the Big G, which is why I am seeking guidance from people with much more SEO knowledge than I.  ;

    Is including the city name in the URL one of those things that 1. might be problematic from Google's perspective or is it 2. just ineffective and therefore just a waste of time and energy to get a new URL or 3. still helpful from a local SEO perspective?  ;
    Thanks.
  • Jim Munro: Please disable the active link in your question, +Theo M ;:)
  • Theo M: +Jim Munro ;my apologies.  ;Forgot the (dot) com trick.  ;Blame it on forgetfulness, not malice.  ;:-)
  • Edwin Jonk: So basically you want to move to a new TLD that includes the city name because the branded name doesn't rank? That move will have zero impact on ranking. Just moving to a new TLD doesn't do anything. In contrast it can lead to a temporarily drop in ranking because Googlebot has to figure out that the site has been moved. After the move you will rank as you did before, but with a new TLD, all things equal.

    To me, it would be more of a defensive decision to buy that TLD. That is, I would buy that TLD so that others can't buy it. Furthermore, I would work with the current, nicely branded, TLD and try to optimize it. Maybe this can be start:
    http://moz.com/local-search-ranking-factors
  • Theo M: Thanks +Edwin Jonk.  ;That is exactly what I will do. I thought as much about the domain name, but just wanted to be make sure that I was steering my client in the right direction.  ;Also thanks for the resource link.  ;I have seen this before and found it very helpful, so you are reminding me to go back and look at it again.

    I know that name, address, phone number (NAP) consistency is really important and unfortunately my client's last web guy decided it was a good idea to stuff keywords into the name, so I need to clean that up all over the web, with many many variations on his name.  ;Kind of a mess, but needs to be done before he can start ranking.

    Thanks again for the advice.  ;Glad you all are here to help. Have a great day!
  • Edwin Jonk: From the expert panel in this weeks SEO Questions hangout on air on 00:09:25 into the YouTube video: https://dumbseoquestions.com/q/is_there_any_seo_value_to_adding_geo_locationi_info_to_a_url +Theo M

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