David Ogletree: I`m on board with Google being evil and would not put it past them if they were doing this.
Alan Bleiweiss: Ste, I`m impressed that you have been doing web development since 2010. I started doing web development in 1995. Good to know we`re both experienced. Your arrogance in believing you have a magic solution that even Google, with their hundreds of developers, can`t discover is astounding though. Yet it`s no surprise since you apparently live in a blackhat box.
David Ogletree: Man I really miss good debate as in I like this. Have not seen a good debate in a whle
Alan Bleiweiss: And just because your sites haven`t been detected, does not mean Google hasn`t hit other sites for it. Or that Google won`t hit your sites in the near future.
Steve Gerencser: We wrote our first `robust` cloaking tool in 97 or 98 I think. It came complete with an admin interface so that the clients could just enter a list of keywords and the tool would generate all the pages with horrible content keyed for specific search engines since they each had their own rules.
It rocked for about 2 years, maybe three. Then it kept getting harder and harder to stay ahead of the engines and we mothballed the whole thing in 99.
I sort of miss those days.
David Ogletree: I miss the early 2000`s I made so much money doing blackhat.
Alan Bleiweiss: LOL I hit one out of the ballpark for a legal site just a decade ago with hidden links generated by the tens of thousands over just a couple weeks. It`s not like black hat hasn`t ever worked, or that black hat can`t still work in some situations. It`s just too toxic to answer a question in THIS group with a generic "no worries, you`re safe" response. Because such a basic, non-nuanced response is bullshit. And dangerous.
David Ogletree: Just to be clear there is no blackhat technique that is impossible for Google to eventually detect. Some are harder to detect but nothing is impossible.