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(Entry was posted by Ted Isaksson on this post in the Dumb SEO Questions community on Facebook, Thursday, May 15, 2014).

Circle sharing, pros and cons?

Q: Circle sharing, pro`s and con`s?
You probably seen people sharing circles, and you probably heard that the more activity a post has the better ranked it is. So then comes the circle sharing communities, how do they effect upon all this?

Im trying to figure out if i should join these "Circle sharing"-things to get a base follower count. This maybe sounds stupid that i only go after the followers and not the specific people, but for a 5-10 minute thing this should get my follower count through the roof.

I do understand the fact that followers isnt the same as activity, but i bet there are also those that are slightly interested in my main topic (web development) but havent joined any communities of it. This way i would have a chance to get a bit more +1`s and/or re-shares on my posts.
Of course, this doesnt mean i stop in working hard to get the topic-interested people to follow me!

So now my question is to you, what pro`s and con`s do you see in this Circle sharing?
Would love to hear your thoughts in the comments!?

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  • Ted Isaksson: <b>Q: Circle sharing, pro&#39;s and con&#39;s?</b>
    You probably seen people sharing circles, and you probably heard that the more activity a post has the better ranked it is. So then comes the circle sharing communities, how do they effect upon all this?

    Im trying to figure out if i should join these &quot;Circle sharing&quot;-things to get a base follower count. This maybe sounds stupid that i only go after the followers and not the specific people, but for a 5-10 minute thing this should get my follower count through the roof.

    I do understand the fact that followers isnt the same as activity, but i bet there are also those that are slightly interested in my main topic (web development) but havent joined any communities of it. This way i would have a chance to get a bit more +1&#39;s and/or re-shares on my posts.
    Of course, this doesnt mean i stop in working hard to get the topic-interested people to follow me!

    <b>So now my question is to you, what pro&#39;s and con&#39;s do you see in this Circle sharing?</b>
    Would love to hear your thoughts in the comments!
  • Jim Munro: I don&#39;t think raw follower numbers are worth a piece of spit. Until there is engagement signified by + 1, reshare or comment I doubt that posts are seen by followers unless directly notified. Dan Petrovic wrote a great article on G+ engagement, I will look for a link for you.
  • Dave Elliott: i agree not worth spit for the general &quot;engagement circles&quot;

    Aj kohn also wrote a brilliant article on the subject of IT DOES NOTHING TO HELP SEO!!!!  ;

    However, i do think there is a place for the more niche circle shares. For example i have an SEO circle with lots of great people on it that will give you lots of lovely information to start reading or people to discuss things with. This is a good thing.

    I really wouldn&#39;t start chasing +1&#39;s, follower counts, or view counts though. No one (should) cares.
  • Ted Isaksson: As long as it doesnt help the SEO, i dont care about my follower count. Im (sadly) used to seeing people who spam / post totally irrelevant things get the most followers and therefor the most famous (in also bringing customers etc).

    Circle sharing is a nice tool that i like to use (with people interested in what i do, and me in what they do), but there are tons of communities just sharing totally random circles to get followers.. This reminds me a bit of Facebook, you add everyone you bump into the street thinking they are of some value to you.

    Thanks for the link  ;, i will read it!
  • Jim Munro: You might find this article interesting too,  ;: ;
  • Ted Isaksson: Thanks for the link ; ;!

    I find this a bit hard to understand, because this is fighting against what ive been told before. Ive read a lot that all posts act as a webpage (which is true), and all the engagement on the post is good because it boosts the post.

    So as its a webpage, shouldnt all the engagement be good for it then?
  • Jim Munro: On the understanding that I am a non-expert addressing your question of &quot;should I join these &quot;Circle sharing&quot; things to get a base follower count&quot;,  ;, I don&#39;t think it&#39;s worth the effort however small.

    I don&#39;t think anybody doubts the benefit of engagement in holding back the &quot;decay&quot; of a post before it drops from general stream view but nobody has yet proven that G+ links or posts have magical ranking powers in organic search, whether accompanied by engagement signals or not.
  • Dave Elliott: Also, do you think these circle snowballs actually mean you get more plus ones for posts? Being in someones irrelevant stream is unlikely to get you plus ones...unless you have a picture of a kitteh attached to the article of course. ;
  • Ted Isaksson: Sorry for the delayed answer.
    Of course being in an irrelevant circle doesnt grant the +1&#39;s and re-shares, but as i stated earlier, there is maybe someone who is interested in my main topic who hasnt seen my post before. This would then be a free +1 for me.

    So i did some more researching, and it really looks like &#39;s linked page is in fact the <b>most up-to-date</b> (march 2014).
    But just to make sure i understood the article, this means that our social performance only benefits if the content writers links to us?

    I found this &quot;old&quot; article at Blindfiveyearold written in January 2014, ;, that says the following:
    &quot;Because Circle count is a primary factor in how these People and Pages are selected. It&#39;s not the only thing as I&#39;ll soon show you but it&#39;s a large part of the equation.&quot;

    Also in the &quot;50 Cool things to do on Google+&quot; by  ;its said in tip #14:
    &quot;► Do everything in your power to attract links and engagement (+1s, shares, etc) to your post as these positive signals will likely improve your post&#39;s authority (importance) and therefore, search ranking&quot;
    (link to the post: ;)

     ;, if you have the time, could you please share the latest details or article about +1&#39;s, re-shares and comments, how they effect the SEO. Also if you have time, what is your opinion to &quot;add everyone you bump into&quot;?
  • Jim Munro: AJ&#39;s article is dated ;JANUARY 20TH 2012 not Jan 2014.

    In that article, ; ;refers to Search+ or Search Plus Your World, SPYW. It&#39;s personalised search, it won&#39;t make a difference unless they are logged in but if they have circled you and are logged in they might see a reference to you as an element of an organic search result if you are relevant.

    I don&#39;t think you have taken note of the disclaimer in  ;&#39;s article viz. &quot;There are several elements that help a standard webpage rank in the search results which, for good measure I recommend you apply to your G+ post - <b>However, I am unaware of any research that supports/proves my following suggestions&quot;</b>

    Rick might or might not turn out to be right one day but until somebody demonstrates anything that makes a difference, I think you should consume it as interesting speculation.

    I am not an expert of anything but if I were interested in finding out the answer to this, I would spend equal time re-reading anything and all that AJ Kohn and Dan Petrovic have written to take on board some basic terms of reference and awaken the bullshit-spotter within you before venturing on to the myriads of other good articles available.

    I don&#39;t think you could have read Dan&#39;s article yet, there&#39;s more there than can be consumed in one night, for me at least.




    In AJ&#39;s article, I think the answers you are looking for are spelled out in the link above with two paras.

    &quot;This is one of the reasons why buying Tweets or Likes just for the sake of pumping up that number is a waste of money. Shares that fail to find an audience with the appropriate creator mix will do nothing for SEO ... or your marketing efforts in general.&quot; ;

    &quot;Social has an indirect but powerful impact on search rankings. It&#39;s not the actual social activity that matters, but what happens as a result of that activity. Optimizing and maximizing creator impressions increases the chance of obtaining links from the group of people who power the link graph.&quot;
  • Ted Isaksson: Haha totally my bad.. Didnt notice the 2012!

    Thank you so much  ;&amp;  ; for helping me! Yes i agree that most topics should be read many times, but sadly blog-posts are hard for me to understand most of the times (im more of a list-guy, just type a list and i understand it much easier).

    I believe this answers all my questions at this point of time and will now start to take what i learned into action :)
    (Oh and yes, i will skip on the irrelevant circle-sharing..!)
  • Jim Munro: You are not alone,  ;, it&#39;s hard for all of us to keep up. All opinions are valid. :)
  • Dave Elliott: ..but mine are more valid than others. :D

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